Zertifikate Y-DNA „Bonaventur“ und Napoleon III., Haplogruppe I (M170), genauer Haplogruppe I2b1 (I-M223), 37 Marker

Die Haplogruppe I (M170), predicted Haplogruppe I2b1, I-M223 der Y-DNA von Napoleon III. ist identisch mit der meines Urur-Grossvaters „Bonaventur“.


Y-DNA Haplogruppe

37 Marker

Genetische Werte E10197 – Väterliche Linie STR

DYS# 393 390 19* 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389-1
Allele 14 23 16 10 15 16 11 13 11 14
DYS# 392 389-2 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448
Allele 12 32 16 8 10 11 11 25 14 20
DYS# 449 464a** 464b** 464c** 464d** 460 GATA H4 YCA II a YCA II b 456
Allele 29 11 14 15 16 11 10 19 21 15
DYS# 607 576 570 CDY a CDY b 442 438
Allele 14 19 19 33 40 11 10



Eine  interessante Aussage gefunden auf http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29432-Napoleon-III-was-not-related-by-blood-to-Napoleon-I-and-may-be-Talleyrand-s-grandson:

Napoleon III was not related by blood to Napoleon I, and may be Talleyrand’s grandson.

Lucotte et al. published (http://www.ijsciences.com/pub/pdf/V220130935.pdf) in October 2013 the extended Y-STR of Napoleon I based on descendant testing, and the descendants were E-M34, just like the emperor’s beard hair tested a year before. The persons tested were the patrilineal descendants of Jérome Bonaparte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me_Bonaparte), one of Napoleon’s brothers, and of Alexandre Colonna-Walewski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Alexandre_Joseph_Colonna-Walewski), Napoleon’s illegitimate son with Marie Walewska. These three tests all yielded the same Y-STR haplotype (109 markers (http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/27225-Napoleon-I-belonged-to-haplogroup-E1b1b1c1*-%28E-M34%29?p=417909&viewfull=1#post417909)) confirming with 100% certainty that the first Emperor of the French belonged to the M34 branch of haplogroup E1b1b (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml).However, Professor Lucotte also tested (http://www.empereurperdu.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=5135) the Y-DNA of Napoleon III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_III_of_France)’s hair and that Jean-Marc Banquet d’Orx, a presumed descendant through one of Napoleon III’s illegitimate sons, the Count of Orx. The results revealed that Jean-Marc Banquet d’Orx was indeed Napoleon III’s patrilineal descendant, but that the two men belonged to haplogroup I2, and therefore did not share the same paternal lineage as Napoleon I.

Napoleon III was presumably the son of Louis Bonaparte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bonaparte) and Hortense de Beauharnais (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hortense_de_Beauharnais) (Joséphine’s daughter, and therefore Napoleon I’s stepdaughter). It has been claimed that Louis Bonaparte was a homosexual, and his wife was known for her rather promiscuous lifestyle.

Hortense is known to have had at least one other illegitimate son (Charles de Morny, Duke of Morny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Auguste_Louis_Joseph,_duc_de_Morny)), who bears an uncanny resemblance with Napoleon III, and could therefore both have been sired by the same man. This man, Hortense’s lover and Charles de Morny’s father, was Charles Joseph, comte de Flahaut. What’s even more interesting is that he was himself the son of Prince Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord), possibly the greatest statesman of the French Revolution and the Bourbon Restoration, and the man most responsible for Napoleon I’s downfall. Napoleon I famously told him that he was „a turd in a silk stocking“. It would be an ironic twist of history if Napoleon III was really Tayllerand’s grandson and not Napoleon I’s !

Besides, if this is true and Napoleon III is I-M223, it would also be the haplogroup of the House of Talleyrand-Périgord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord). This house is a cadet branch of the Count of La Marche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_la_Marche), whose oldest patrilineal ancestor is Boso I (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_comtes_de_la_Marche) (958–988), himself a probable descendant of the House of Limoges (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_de_Limoges), from whom are also descended the Viscounts of Turenne, the Viscounts of Rochechouart, and the Dukes of Mortemart, among others. The House of Limoges itself was founded as a cadet branch of the Counts of Toulouse-Rouergue, dating back to the 9th century. I-M223 would be a very possible haplogroup for an old Frankish noble family.

Another possibility is that Napoleon III was the son of Carel Hendrik Verhuell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carel_Hendrik_Ver_Huell), a Dutch admiral and statesman who is rumoured to have had a liaison with Hortense when she was Queen of Holland. This affair hasn’t been proven though.


Sehr nahe an der DNA ist auch der amerikanische Nationalheld Davy Crockett, der bei der Schlacht von Alamo fiel. Hier der DNA-Vergleich bei Eupedia.

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